we understand the need to have just special time with your little family we feel that need too, but we also have a few other things we must consider. On the years when we have the kids for Christmas like this one we only have them until 1 pm then they must go to their other parents until 9pm. On the years we don't have them for Christmas we don't get them until 1pm and then they have to go back to their other parents at 9pm. Also, this year Nanette gets Tony and the rest of the boys for his birthday which is Christmas Eve. We also have Golding grandparents that would like some of our time too and in our effort to make neither family more important we have a real dilemma on our hands as to how exactly to divide our time and make it fair but still have time together as our family too. This year we feel it is important that we make it special because Brent will be here, but it will also be Bethani's first Christmas and the first Christmas that my brother Jim will be home from his mission. Also a big one for us this is the first year in 4 that we will have the 5 boys with us Christmas morning and all of the kids together on Christmas morning all 8 of them. Alot of exciting things and we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings so we will try to be as workable as we can with everyone, but we do have a few considerations to think of. Sorry that makes it so complicated to get together. What if the lunch wasn't until like 11am? Is that enough time for everyone or is that still to early? Any other suggestions? Want to give us away yet?? Just as a note we are telling this to the Goldings too so everyone will understand where we are coming from and hopeful still be speaking with us! We are good with the picture idea too! Especially since no one is pregnant that we know of so it will last a little while.:-) Love you guys! Sean and Katina